Vitiate, known for the vast majority of his life as simply the sith emperor and known to his eternal empire as valkorion, was a dark lord of the sith who reconstituted the sith empire after its destruction in the great hyperspace war and went on to rule it for over 1,400 years. Plagueis because he matches vitiate can hold the line with force powers, closes the distance, and ends a saber duelh2h contest quickly. The nature of vitiate s power is very different to that of plagueis and most of the other banite sith, and whilst the likes of darth zannah and darth tenebrous may not be able to perform a ritual. Versus series darth sidiouspalpatine vs vitiate sith emperor duration. Darth plagueis by james luceno goodreads share book. Vitiate s accolades were, like plagueis s, in a third person omniscient view the encyclopedia ends at the time of the hero confronting. Even in the parts where darth plagueis is present in the story, the focus is upon how the events shape darth sidious not darth plagueis.
Vatiate, some bullshit that some douche metagame minmaxed to break the system. Darth plagueis definetely should be 4b a standard month after the events on coruscant, plagueis summoned sidious to muunilinst. However, sue rostoni later stated that the book had been reinstated, and the novel was to be released on january 10, 2012. Once a jedi and hero of the mandalorian wars, he was corrupted by sith emperor vitiate and began his own sith empire until being defeated by jedi bastila shun. Should you be able to substantiate your claims with actual extracts from the book and it might be worth somebodys attention. It was crafted sometime in his years as an apprentice under his master, darth tenebrous. What is not up for debate, is that literally in the same effing novel, plagueis, who is well aware of emperor vitiates exploits and even details such as his ever going quest for immortality, states flat out that he is more powerful than them all.
Trained by darth tenebrous, plagueis mastered the art and science of midichlorian manipulation. Darth plagueis in his prime, as of james lucenos novel. Obsessed with eternal life, he experimented with ways to cheat. The book is not canon because the purchase of lucasfilm by disney, and they said. Valkorion never mastered the midichlorian manipualtion ability that is plagueis signature power, since plagueis was the only one to do so. Some among this superpowered clan of mystical spacefaring.
But seriously, he was created by the force as an answer to plagueis and sidious asserting dominance over it in the non canonical book plagueis. One of the more powerful darth lords in sith history, malgus was studied by vader and palpatine. It doesnt matter if you love or hate the current star wars, whether you think tlj is a masterpiece, or you dream of figuratively slapping rian johnson for murdering you favourite franchise, jedi vs sith goes. Fandom may earn an affiliate commission on sales made from links on this page. This book focuses on two sith lords namely darth plagueis and his apprentice darth sidious aka palpatine. Revan, a jedi turned sith turned jedi again, surpasses most of the sith lords. Seven or eight years ago this book would have benefited from the momentum of the eu. In fact, plagueis was nearly equal with his apprentice, darth sidious tpm incarnation. Sidious is the best shot since the point of the whole prophecy in kotor was to link it to the movies, but vader, darth ruin, and bane may also qualify. I think you can gather who i think would win this battle. Banes plan produced more powerful sith lords with each generation. Download it once and read it on your kindle device, pc, phones or tablets. Thousands of years after the emperors death, the sith lord darth plagueis himself obsessed with achieving immortalitymused that lord vitiate, as he was known to history, was the only sith lord in history who had come close to achieving the.
So feel free to vote for whichever ones you love most, and dont pick on other peoples choices. Sep 20, 2015 this redbladed lightsaber was wielded by the sith lord darth plagueis. He is the mentor and murder victim of future emperor sheev palpatine a. Novels also tend to present point of view of characters regarding galactic events within the lore. Palpatine says he had the power to save people from dying, and that he taught his apprentice everything he knew before his apprentice killed him.
For this part of the discussion mark hurliman of the star wars report and star wars beyond the films podcasts joins me. Born in 51 bby as the illegitimate sith son of lord dramath, tenebrae carved a path of destruction across the planet medriaas, torturing and massacring. And as we know from revenge of the sith, plagueis had equal sway over life itself. Force wielders midichlorians vitiate plagueis audio. When the force entity known as vitiate arrived on zakuul, he chose valkorion to become his new host body, and took possession of the mans physical form. Darth plagueis, book of the sith dooku smiled with his eyes, but not in mirth. All out fight, vitiate as the late emperor jedi knight storylineround 2. I think plagueis would have died during his assassination attempt if sidious hadnt saved him.
However, sue rostoni later stated that the book had been. We know this thanks to the book of the sith a highly informative read. Malgus was a human male sith lord of the sith empire during the great galactic war. Who would win, darth sidiouspalpatine vs vitiatesith emperor. Knights of the fallen empire vitiate, valkorion and the zakuul empire. The series opens with palpatines enforcer, the feared darth vader, boarding tantive iv, the personal starship of princess leia organa, the princess of alderaan. I think jcw vs plagueis is a fair match personally in that it could go either way. From acrobats with doublebladed lightsabers to wrinkly old men who shoot lightning, these sith prove the power of the dark side is irresistible. Darth plagueis was a dark lord of the sith, so powerful and so wise that he could use the force to influence the midichlorians to create life. Darth plagueis was a dark lord of the sith, so powerful and so wise that he.
The sith order are depicted as an ancient monastic and kraterocratic. The combination of these two elements by luceno is a treat to read. There have been plot leaks and rumors detailing snokes need to. During the rots novel sidious manages to move fast enough to kill the. The goto source for comic book and superhero movie fans. The sith are the main antagonists in the star wars universe. Nov 01, 2016 were here to talk about the most powerful sith in the star wars universe, but first we have to define what we mean by powerful. Vitiate the swtor version, not the kotfe valkorion is not yet strong eno. Darth bane, the most legit sith to ever grace the battlefield vs. Darth sidious claimed that his own master, darth plagueis, could even use the force to avert the. Also, vitiate was mentioned in the darth plagueis novel which is canon. Darth revan would be more fair, but there is a reason for him being high high tier as opposed to where i placed bane.
And they could harm and had individual thinking care to explain why it doesnt count. Sheev would destroy failkorion in just about five minutes sidious. Valkorion was a male human warrior from the planet zakuul who lived centuries before the galactic war. Darth sidious, who later frames his history and reputed ability to control natural phenomena of life and death as a legend used to lure anakin skywalker to the dark side of the force. I honestly havent heard anyone guess windu before, but i cant see it at all. But it is ambigious in the book as at one point plagueis attempts to create a forceful being and. Is darth vitiate the strongest out of all the sith lords. However, plagueis is the confirmed 2nd most powerful sith lord up to his time. Sidious in the movies or strictly disney canon sidious, then vitiate would win easily. The noncanon expert describes how darth plagueis viewed the ancient sith emperor vitiate and what he thought about the powers that vitiate achieved during his lifetime. But first and foremost, when i read for pleasure, i want to be caught up in the story. I created this list because i was fascinated with sith, but i didnt know where to find books specifically about them. Enlistment 6765 years before the battle of yavin 1.
Mar 27, 2020 the star of the hugely popular knights of the old republic, revan was born almost 4000 years before the events of the original star wars trilogy. Who is still talking about the darth plagueis novel. All out fight, vitiate as the late emperor jedi knight storyline round 2. Plagueis had the same weakness as vader his breathing device failed when hit by force lighting. Star wars old vs new darth vitiate vs darth sidious. Sidious had visited the high port skyhook but had never been invited downside, and now he found himself soaring over one of the planets unspoiled blue oceans in a stylish airspeeder piloted by two sun guards. Tenebrous is relative and extremely close in power to prime plagueis, who is even stronger than valkorion, who himself is far stronger than the iteration of vitiate who oneshot revan. The only thing i could find that connected vitiate specifically is from the darth plagueis novel. The underworld fortyseven standard years before the harrowing reign of emperor palpatine, baldemnic was nothing more than an embryonic world in the outer rims auril sector, populated by reptilian sentients who expressed as little tolerance for outsiders as they. Based on a comparison with darth bane, plagueis should be 4b. Vitiate could be far lower, or he could be right on plagueis level, but hes certainly not above him by anything more than a microbial amount even if were being generous to him. The novel darth plagueis does not mention much about vitiate, other than that he allegedly unlocked the secret to immortality plagueis sought, although. Unbeknownst to the rest of the galaxy, vitiate had spent the last several centuries forging a new society on the planet zakuul, and even had three children, arcann, thexan, and vaylin. Since im interested in learning more about the possibility of an alliance.
Oct 30, 2012 9780345511287excerpt lucerno star wars darth plagueis part one. Destruction by drew karpyshyn revan by drew karpyshyn darth plagueis by. Born to farmers on the planet medriass in 51 bby, tenebrae was always unnatural, having eyes as black as space and never displaying emotion. Plagueis is not interesting at all hes a flat character with a simple motivation. Darth plagueis is mentioned prominently in revenge of the sith. Star wars legends star wars legends book 19 kindle edition by luceno, james.
Darth malgus is a major antagonist in star wars franchise, serving as one of the two main antagonists alongside vitiate of the bioware mmorpg star wars. What sidious thought of darth bane and his rule of two. I think yoda loses to the duo, but that would be a long fight and luke might beat sidious before that happens. But as it stands anybody who has actually read darth plagueis would know your claims to. Darth nihilus, on the other hand, lived on to deem darth krayt an unworthy successor. Darth plagueis is a novel by james luceno that tells the backstory of the dark lord of the sith, darth plagueis. Vitiate was the emperor of the sith for over a millennium during the old republic era, reconstructing it after the great hyperspace war. Darth plagueis is a fictional character in the star wars franchise, first mentioned in star wars. Oct 01, 2011 in this book revans memory is returning, and he is plagued by what the main character in that game, revan, was the protagonist in a story that left you hanging when it ended. Since then, films, books, computer games and comics have been released, all set in the.
Sith emperor vitiate vs emperor palpatine by tmdarth11 on. The empire strikes backscore artist london voices, london symphony orchestra. We dont even know who prophesied his coming in the first place. Narration for the audio version was performed by daniel davis. Click here to see this thread with all of the graphics, features. Given that sidious was never able to master the midichlorian manipulation techniques that plagueis created, then i would say he wasnt. Tenebraeknown to the old sith empire as vitiate, his reconstituted sith empire as the sith emperor, and his eternal empire as valkorionwas an ancient dark side entity of enormous power who manipulated galactic affairs for 1,500 years.
Life in the fallout alley youth zone or the fayz is difficult for the high schoolers and youngsters caught inside, cut off from the outside wo. From reading these comments though, it sounds to me like this is a pointless argument. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading darth plagueis. Feb 10, 2012 in his quest for total domination, darth sidious compiled six legendary dark side texts detailing sith history and philosophy by sorzus syn, darth malgus, darth bane, mother talzin, darth plagueis, and himself. Darth plagueis viewed the ancient sith emperor vitiate and what he. Stated in publishers blurb to be the most powerful sith lord that ever lived presumably before sidious along with sidious who wasnt as powerful as him yet, unbalanced the entire cosmic force to a massive degree by meditating on an island for a few months, creating a titanic paradigm shift that would lead to the fogging of the longterm foresight of the jedi and. Stated in publishers blurb to be the most powerful sith lord that ever lived presumably before sidious along with sidious who wasnt as powerful as him yet, unbalanced the entire cosmic force to a massive degree by meditating on an island for a few months, creating a titanic paradigm shift that would lead to the fogging of the longterm foresight of the jedi. The book has a few interesting moments, but these consistely give way to boring political chatter and endless discussions about naboo and prequel retcon. The dearth of fangirlfriendly novels among the recent eu releases is a broader problem of story selection, and darth plagueis, executed from lucas vision, is a book that should have been written. Best new star wars books best new star wars canon books new star wars canon the new star wars canon novels top star wars. Bioware really dropped the ball on this one as far as creating a new and interesting villain goes, instead they just create a nearcopy of. You can read my findings and speculation in my post here.
Emperor vitiate, for all his knowledge and many achievements, still ultimately met a final death distant enough to render him as little more than a legend to aspire to for darth plagueis. Not so sure bane could keep pace very long with either without being overwhelmed. Luceno doesnt expand on what i already knew about the sith one to hold power, and another to crave it. This book is, in my opinion, a absolute mustread for anyone that wants to know more about the lore of the galaxy far far away. Nov, 2017 plagueis would have been concerned with vitiates ability to exist as a force entity and cheat death.
As much as i love sw legends, i personally hate vitiate because he is just a blatant, lazy copy of sidious. First off, i dont know who vitiate is so this is a bias comment as i have read bane and he is for sure my jam. Star wars takes place in a galaxy far, far, away which is trapped in the iron grip of the emperor of the galactic empire, sheev palpatine. Who would win, vitiate, sidious, revan, or exar kun. Star wars was clearly written to the specifications lucasfilm set out for the author, james luceno, and unfortunately entitled darth plagueis. As much as i love sw legends, i personally hate vitiate because he is just a blatant, lazy. Darth plagueis, remembered as darth plagueis the wise, was a male muun dark lord of the sith and heir to the lineage of darth bane. Revan was stomped by vitiates force lightning storm. It was originally scheduled for release in october of 2008, but its release was canceled. All out fight, vitiate as valkorion during the fallen empire. Only then will the transgressors bow to you in awe and renew their devotion to.
After plagueis murdered his master on baldemnic in 67 bby, his lightsaber continued to be in his possession, even at the time he. The sithari is more of a legend than a true prophecy in my opinion. Specifically, ive chosen to focus on vitiate and how he may or may not be affiliated with valkorion and the zakuul empire. The most powerful sith in the star wars universe, ranked. Vitiate disappeared in the aftermath of the ziost massacre, only to reappear as valkorion, the leader of a hidden eternal empire in wild space. Plagueis has also made a much more intelligent use of the force in combat than what ive seen of vitiate. As one would expect from the man who trained darth sidious, plagueis is a master manipulator of public figures and events. I liked the first one so much, i quickly got the second one and am already looking forward to the rest. Dec 16, 20 sith emperor vitiate vs emperor palpatine.
Initially, the story explores the rise of plagueis as a sith lord. Plagueis would have been concerned with vitiate s ability to exist as a force entity and cheat death. We can assume that not much is known about vitiate in galactic history or the archives are incomplete. What darth plagueis thought of sith emperor vitiate. Vitiate is definitely more powerful imo, but plagueis is just a more skilled combatant. Darth plagueis is an utterly outdated source to consider for the matters of vitiate. However, sue rostoni later stated that the book had been reinstated, and the novel was to be.
Vitiate renamed the world nathema and ruled it for the next century. The star wars sith lords are vital to the franchise, and some of them have been around forever. When i first saw revenge of the sith, i assumed that the tragedy of darth plagueis the wise was just a sith legend. Jan 19, 2019 the noncanon expert describes how darth plagueis viewed the ancient sith emperor vitiate and what he thought about the powers that vitiate achieved during his lifetime.
Who would win, darth sidiouspalpatine vs vitiatesith. I would like to see vitiate trying to handle plagueis s speed and lightsaber prowess against his lightning. Did you ever hear the tragedy of darth plagueis the wise. This is a group that was created for anyone who loves star wars, may it be the books, games, films and modding. Darth nihilus vs valkyrionemperor vitiate spacebattles. Versus series ludo kressh vs darth plagueis youtube. But that alone isnt enough to say he wasnt more powerful than plagueis. Definitely not vitiate, they arent even in the same universe. Born in 51 bby as the illegitimate sith son of lord. Lol, sidious was helping darth plagueis, so yeah, he knew that technique.
Yoda beats vitiate outlander loses to plagueis plagueis might be able to kill the outlander within seconds, which means that either luke or yoda are getting tagged team or plagueis can haxx midichlorian manipulation. The noncanon expert describes darth sidiouss thoughts regarding darth bane and the rule of two in the weeks following his rise to become emperor of. He was born under the name veradun within imperial space, and raised by his adoptive father. Plagueis had the same weakness as vader his breathing device failed when hit. If they were to battle before the assassination attempt, i think plagueis would win. This book sheds so much light on the events after the game, and also continues to include characters from the first and second game. Darth plagueis is a common theory, and while i suppose its possible, i highly doubt it.
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